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Thank you, Judith, for an interesting post, rasiing debate about such an important topic.I think more research is needed, but the kind of research that needs to be done is a matter of differing opinions. I think more attention needs to be given to the social conditions which affect people’s mental health. Like The Critical Psychiatry Network, I disagree with the emphasis on biological research. Both here and in the US so much research focuses on neurobiology and genetics. Yet, after many years of research, there is no evidence that brain disease is the basis of what are known as mental illnesses. The Campaign to Abolish Psychiatric Diagnoses (rightly in my view) calls for an end to the years of fruitless research to find biological correlates which continue to deliver nothing clinically useful.‘I would like to see more recognition of the importance of user-led research into issues of concern for the service user, which often professionally-led research has failed to address. I agree, Judith, that drug treatments have debilitating effects on the lives of people who take them. More research is neeeded to look into service users’ experiences of psychiatric drugs and into finding alternatives to drug treatments. The unaceptable adverse effects of drugs tends to be ignored or denied when research is initiated and funded by drugs companies motivated by their profits.I appreciate the good work and intentions of the Time to Change anti-stigma campaign. We do need to fight against stigma, but perhaps we should look first at the stigmatising attitudes coming from within the mental health services and question the validity of stimatising diagnostic labels.